Working the subconscious to heal & Creativity with Gaby Hernandez Cunto

The healing journey can be filled with numerous roadblocks, most of them can be internal, tied to what lives in our subconscious. This area can be tapped with techniques like Hypnosis therapy.  But that can be a scary subject, especially for trauma survivors. Mostly due to a high-level of misinformation or misrepresentation of the subject.  So for this episode I've invited my dear friend Gaby Hernandez founder of the School of You, to do a deep dive into: 

• What is the subconscious and the connection to our emotions
• What is hypnosis and how does she practice it
• Why tapping into our subconscious is a direct way to connect with our creativity. 

Hope you get to feel the love and warmth I felt while talking about this fascinating subject with such a beautiful human!

Elizabeth Gilbert talk on the Curiosity Driven Life: Oprah.com
To connect with Gaby on Instagram: @schoolofyou_
Gaby's Tik Tok: schoolofyou
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Transcript

Martha: [00:00:00] Welcome everybody again to a new episode of Creative Botica, a podcast where we explore the intersection between healing and the role that our innate creativity plays in this journey. Today we have one of my favorite people and great friends, Gabby. She is an energy restorer and subconscious guide who has dedicated her life to helping others step into their own real selves.

With years of training and experience in a range of healing modalities, Gaby has developed a unique approach that combines energy work. Intuition and deep understanding of the subconscious mind and how all of these are linked by our emotions. So welcome, Gabby. Thank you for joining us today.

Gaby: Thank you so much.

This is finally happening. 

Martha: Yay. I forgot to say that she's also the founder of School of You. You can find her on Instagram where you can see a [00:01:00] variety of services that she provides with all the modalities that she works with. for those of you who don't know us, we've been friends for a while now.

We just happened to go to the same, college and prior to that have a lot of like mutual friends, but we really didn't connect until much later through, social media when we realized that we liked the same stuff, that we were in the same journey. 

So that's how we connected a while ago.

And I also have to say Gabby is one of the 

biggest supporters I 

have. Whenever I wanna do something new or weird she's the first one to go 

go for it. 

Gaby: It's mutual, of course. 

Martha: Correct. That's what you do. That's why you find your people. 

All right, Gabby, to get started, can you give us a little bit of your background of your story?

 How did you land, on where you are today? 

Gaby: I think as many people, who start going through this path, it starts with something [00:02:00] that's happening to the self, in my case with something physical, I was going through some physical issues and medicine was not helping at all.

 It wasn't just that, it wasn't helping, it was that I felt no one heard me. When I was telling my story and if I didn't fit the correct check boxes, then you have nothing. Like what are you complaining about? Mm-hmm., so that got me into, okay, I need to figure this out by myself. 

I started yoga because it was the first thing that really caught me. I don't do well with other exercises. Type of things. Thanks. But that was my gateway to all of this, I'm so, so grateful that I found yoga. That was roughly like 10 years ago, probably 12. And now that I'm doing all this work, I understand why yoga works so well with this.

Mm-hmm. Cause it's physical thing. Some people might say it's a spiritual thing, of course, but it works so much, like helping us [00:03:00] deal with emotions. So through there, I was a very dedicated student in my yoga practice, and I got a lot of opportunities from there to. Change my path career-wise, because I was a translator and it was okay, but I wasn't feeling it, it was just my job.

Mm-hmm. But then I got some opportunities, and I did a master's in exercise science. Everything for me, was like very linked to yoga and how we can, expand that part even better. From there I started meeting people and one thing led to another. I started, from there I met someone who taught me this healing technique called reactivation. Then from studying that, I met someone else that got me into reiki and it's like the chain starts going and after I did my foundation, I've done a [00:04:00] lot of self-research on all of this, and I think what's most important is that it's all based mostly on my own journey.

So, everything that I do, everything that I apply to everybody, like to my clients and to my audience, I do it myself first. I think that's what makes a difference sometimes, because I don't think we're able to help if we don't help ourselves first. 

agree a hundred percent.

 That's how I got into this whole crazy magic path of, getting to know people better from the inside, starting with me. And now I do feel not like when I was a translator, this is not just my job, this is my life completely. 

Martha: This is your purpose. Yeah, 

Gaby: exactly. It feels like that.

 It's very rewarding. Yeah. 

Martha: It is. [00:05:00] Well, thank you for sharing your story. I love the fact that everybody that I'm asking to participate in this podcast, we all have our own journey. It really, whatever we are headed or whatever we're sharing at the moment, it comes from our own experience, which I think makes it so powerful.

 And this is not to discredit, Allopathic medicine and western medicine. But that is like a standardized procedure overall, right? It's not. Based on the individual or what is particular to the person that is going through something. Whereas the people that I'm bringing into this space, they all have experience, healing through their own modalities that they research that. Eventually they become experts and after that they become practitioners. So, I love the fact that, everything that you share online in your content and everything you share in your practice comes from testing it basically on yourself and learning from within, how it [00:06:00] benefits, your healing journey.

 From there, because you mentioned different paths, right? You've come across different things and one thing has led to the other. And reminds me of a presentation that Liz Gilbert does on the hummingbird path, which if you don't know already, I'm obsessed about birds and that's my favorite bird.

So, you will know but What Liz Gilbert explains is there are these people that are like jackhammers, and they just know exactly what they want from day one and they just go for it, and it lights them on fire and whatnot. And there are others like you and I that they like a lot of things.

 Maybe not to the point of lighting yourself on fire, but enough for you to be curious. And you Learn a little bit of it and then you try it and then you learn something new and then you find another stuff and you go to, I kind of like, before we move any further in this conversation, I kind of wanna validate that, that is also important.

 Not everyone of us has [00:07:00] been born with a clear idea of what they wanna do with their life. 

Gaby: And I have to say, I think there are more people who are hummingbirds. 

Martha: Yes, there is something beautiful about just like learning about little things, trying about things here and there that pique our curiosity that maybe they do become our passion, but it's for a certain amount of time and then we change to another thing.

But what happens is like what? Liz, shares, and I'll probably share this on the links for the podcast, is you create this whole wide network that you've been pollinating from all the different places that you've visited, from all the different modalities or things that you have research, and that is what makes you who you are and the value that you bring to the table.

So, I really wanted to validate that because I'm the same way I. except I think the bird's thing is sticking. I think that's the one thing that it's

really my passion. 

But outside of that, we are so bombarded with have clarity on your purpose. [00:08:00] Follow your passion, let it light yourself on fire.

Excuse me, sir, I don't wanna be lit on fire. I wanna have a nap. I wanna chill and I wanna learn about the things that interest me. Thank you very much. 

Gaby: Yes. It's definitely like that. And, even if someone knows exactly what they want, since, they have consciousness, there are little differences.

They're all little things that will differentiate them from other people who are doing the same. And that only comes from that space of exploring things.

Martha: Correct. 

Gaby: You might know from, I don't know, you're seven years old and you wanna be a teacher, but not all teachers are the same.

Mm-hmm. So, everybody needs to give themselves that space. And that's part of what I try to do when I work with my clients is, that's why it's called School of You because it's we all need to learn exactly what those, sometimes little things, sometimes big things.

Correct. Are that sparks our souls. Mm-hmm. All different. And [00:09:00] if we tap into all those things that spark our souls individually, we will have a more unique way of expressing our purpose and our purpose doesn't have to be re related to our job.

Martha: Correct.

Gaby: It's not necessarily that, but we will all do our jobs or, we will all live our lives in a more unique way.

And I think that's what the world needs right now. It's not just this standardized, you do this. Mm-hmm. You. Check all these boxes and then. 

you die. 

Martha: Correct. And then, thank you very much. See you next time. this is the connection with creativity because I feel like that's what creativity. Feeds from, from curiosity, I feel like that's the number one ingredient. Because it's gonna be that curiosity and the emotions that, that curiosity insights in us, that's gonna move us [00:10:00] beyond the fear or the doubt to do something. Which is why I wanna ask. You mentioned in your description, and you mentioned a lot in your content, emotions, why are emotions so important to you?

Gaby: Well, as we mentioned before, I work a lot with people's subconscious and emotions are the language of our subconscious. And our subconscious is what actually leads our daily lives. Mm-hmm. We think we're thinking. Everything that we do, but we're not, we're somehow on automatic pilot with whatever's happening there.

And it's not that there's no access to it, but access is not the same as the access we have to our consciousness, I think it’s, as a civilization, we have given thoughts. Too much hierarchy Importance. Yeah. importance in our life and emotions are, were actually rules us. 

emotions rule our thoughts. Mm-hmm. [00:11:00] So I normally say, and I don't know where I read this, but I think this is my motive sometimes, and it says, we're not thinking beings. We're sentient beings who think. 

Martha: Yeah, and to add to that, Brene Brown adds a little bit to it, and she goes we tend to believe that we are logical beings that on occasion feel. And what the reality is, is that we're emotional beings that on occasion think exactly because it's that we are ruled by the emotions we feel, and if we're not aware of them, if we're not conscious of them, we are just gonna drive into this patterns that sometimes we find ourselves in.

Gaby: Yeah, 

and it's because it's that idea that if we don't first, even acknowledge the fact that we are feeling through our days, we have feelings every single moment of our days. Mm-hmm. Feelings might go, very brief, but they're there all day every day. If [00:12:00] we don't even acknowledge that, they just control us.

Mm-hmm. Without us., having any saying in it. And then the idea is not to control our feelings because that feels like repressing them. The idea for us is to live in acceptance with our feelings, knowing them, knowing when they're there and why they're there and how they're there, and just accepting them and processing them in a different way. 

Martha: Absolutely. That's what gives us room to manage and understand our own emotions and, talk about creating space for validating things like. Humans can feel more than one in emotion at the same time, and they can be contradictory to each other.

 You can have fear and feel hope at the same time. You can feel love and grieve at the same time. You can be excited and angry for some reason, all the, Possibilities are there and they're all valid. I always like to reinforce the fact that there are [00:13:00] no negative or positive emotions.

Yeah. They're just simply giving us information about what the environment is doing to us or how it is impacting us. okay, so moving on to the next question. Gabby, you mentioned a lot, the subconscious, and I know we talked about this prior to the podcast, like, in English you don't use that word that much in this type of language, but there is the unconscious and the subconscious.

Is there a difference in what is the subconscious? 

Gaby: There is literature when there's a difference, but the idea is that we have this conscious part. Our consciousness. We, think we verbalize and, we are more in charge of that part. Because when you want to speak something, you can speak it and that's it.

 So, the other part of our mind it can be the subconscious can be the unconscious. We were talking about this because, sometimes the word unconscious [00:14:00] is not as safe for some people because, when there's no consciousness, I'm vulnerable. And then there's other people who don't like to use the word subconscious because it means, it's under the consciousness.

So, there's a hierarchy there. But just pick the one that you feel more comfortable with, and I mean that for everybody. But the idea is that there is this part of our mind that is not as easily accessible and that for some, studies, it rules 75, to 80% of everything we do, of everything we are actually.

And is this part that has been feeding from every single experience we've had and is the one where like I said before is the one that is, somehow ruled let's say it's emotions. So, every single experience we've had that sparked an emotion in us. [00:15:00] 

Lives in our subconscious. That's why working with the subconscious is so crucial to, start moving forward in our own journeys, when we, can verbalize something, there, it's accessible. But if we, just keep talking about things, we're not accessing the things that are like back there.

There are probably, ruling everything that we do, but we are just not aware. Sometimes we had an experience, and we don't even remember it because of many reasons. Maybe it was too traumatic, maybe. It got lost I mean; we all saw inside out, and we saw like how vast. 

Martha: the

mind is. 

Gaby: Yeah, it happens. So, it gives us so much information. And there are many ways to go there. One of them, is to start identifying and start sitting yourself with every emotion. Maybe not every, because we have so many, but with emotions that are important.

Okay, I'm feeling this right now. I'm so angry right now. Why am I so [00:16:00] angry? And just sit there and it starts giving you information.

Martha: Yeah, and this is, an exercise I like to share a lot when I do my creativity workshops and is, coloring by emotion the participants, draw, a human figure, it, can be of any shape, form, and. I give them two emotions that could be opposite to each other and ask them to identify where does it feel in the body?

What words come up, what color would you give it? Is it expansive? Does it contract? Because what you're saying, it's so true. Sometimes we have strong emotions that we think are triggered by something, but when we really sit with them, it comes from something else.

 And maybe that thing that happened just happens to remind you of the original thing that made you angry or whatnot. So, tell us a little bit about this methodology that you use to tap into the subconscious. [00:17:00] I know you create visualizations, it's like a guided meditation of sorts.

Yeah. Like how would you describe it? 

Gaby: it is a guided meditation. I was reading the other day that the difference between meditation and hypnosis is that practitioners of meditation know that it is a practice that you have to do. Let's say constantly.

But people who go for hypnosis think, it's a onetime thing. Like you do one and then you're set for life. Mm-hmm. 

, the reason is just result. 

Martha: Nothing works like that.

Gaby: Nothing works like that. But I have to say that this deep meditation you see a lot, when you go there.

 The way I do them is, like you mentioned, it's a deep meditation where I guide the person through this journey depending on what the person wants to work on. And I've done things that maybe people want to heal from something. There might be people who want to create a project and they don't know where to start or what [00:18:00] exactly to do, 

and everything is there, I just guide people through different scenarios. It can be scenarios where you see your fear. This depends on where the person is on their journey. Mm-hmm. Sometimes seeing your fears is not the first session.

But you can connect with, your ancestors, you can connect with your inner child. You can connect to people who you want to talk to, but you can't. For some reason. You can connect to many things, and I can give you some prompts when we do the whole, session, but then every mind will see exactly what they need.

Martha: Mm-hmm. 

Gaby: You see there is this, and I know that we're talking about creativity here, but the other day I was just thinking, when I did the sessions, the first thing I make people do is to go to their mind lobby.

Martha: Mm-hmm.

Gaby: And I was thinking that I wanna do something creative about all the lobbies I've heard [00:19:00] from, People have so many different things that they consider a lobby.

 Everything is so unique. Every element that is in that lobby, it's important for that person for a reason. 

Martha: Yeah. 

Gaby: And it could be amazing to draw them or something like that. 

Oh my god. 

Martha: Yes. Yeah. And this is something that happens a lot when Gaby and I are talking.

We go on all this different rabbit holes, but before we go into rabbit hole, I do love that idea and the architect and me just wants to recreate all the lobbies and make just like a series of drawings of like this is, you know, 

but, bringing it back to creativity, and this is something I always like to remind everybody.

Creativity is innate in the human being. We tend to give creativity a certain look and feel and assign it to specific things like art, but creativity is in everything we do. And what you're sharing here is really important because you're giving the same assignment to different individuals and they [00:20:00] all come up with a different result, and it comes from themselves, which. Means it comes from their own creativity.

So how do you see creativity? How would you define creativity? Gaby 

Gaby: I think creativity is just the way we express what we have inside. it's just our way of telling other people or showing other people how we see the world how we see ourselves in the world. 

And that's, to me, that's why it's so unique and we can relate it to art, but everything is creativity. If you work in a factory and you have to look for ways to make the work better every time. Mm-hmm.

You're being creative. 

Martha: Correct. 

Gaby: Everything is creativity, like how you handle your day, your time during the day to do everything, every task that you have assigned for that day, that's creativity. 

Martha: Correct. And this is something we were talking about in prepping for this [00:21:00] talk is there is a lot of fear that is connected to creativity, like because of our upbringing, because of the culture that we live in and a myriad of different stories that we may be telling ourselves about who we are. We tend to have a lot of fear when we wanna do something different that is coming from our creativity.

So, I think something important and really remarkable for the work that you do with your clients in terms of this guided meditations is. You allow them to go past the fear and just tap directly into their creativity because you give them prompts, but they're all gonna come up with a different imagery.

 Because at no point you made them aware that that was a creative act. 

Gaby: Exactly. 

Martha: And that you are also creating a safe space for them to explore how they would express themselves in a certain situation. So, I think it's a beautiful way to [00:22:00] start rewiring your brain into tapping into that, because that's the source of our creativity.

Like everything that lies in that underworld that we are not fully aware of that it's connected to our emotions and how the world around us makes us feel like imagery comes in, words come in, and if we find a way to tap into that, Like this type of work. I think we can get to know each other better.

 Then you learn to identify maybe patterns, blind spots, maybe stuff that you have unresolved. And that's also the connection into the healing journey. For example, in my own experience, because I've done this, meditations with you a couple of times. They gave me really interesting information.

 I don't know if it was the first one or the second one, but the one that we did on the workshop that you were doing about receiving love. You did this guided meditation where, at some point in the visualization, we had to take our armor off. Right?

Yeah. Before laying on the ground in the middle of nature. [00:23:00] And for me, it was very easy to take off the armor except a plate that was covering my heart like a chest plate. I could, for the life of me, in my own imagination, that I am controlling, or I think I'm controlling. I could not pull that plate off, and I had to just give up and lay on the ground without my armor, except that part.

But the information there was so important, it is like, girl, you're closed, this area, you're very protective of, you need to get rid of that somehow. You need to work on it. And it's also guided the stuff that I'm working with right now in, in my own healing journey.

It's how do I shift that concept of armor around my heart? How do I feel safe enough to be vulnerable without feeling like I have to brace for impact? So, I've been working a lot on that. And there's actually an image in my head that I wanna. Create eventually in one of, my [00:24:00] drawings, but it stemmed from that.

And then in a different session, in a different place, something else came up that helped me figure out how to internally make that shift. Now I need to put it into practice, but that's different story. One step at a time and then another time, we were doing, this was like a one-on-one that we had.

 The message was very clear and, I had not thought about it that way. I felt a little stuck, in my relationship and what it came up was my two sets of grandparents. And basically, because I think you were walking me through rooms, and I was just filling in the rooms with the people and the things that came up in my mind from my subconscious.

 And l when I finished, that meditation, where I came out with is, I really have to integrate all parts of myself because I really compartmentalize a lot. For example, I am an architect. I work in corporate, but I'm also very woo woo and I have my own rituals and I [00:25:00] am an artist and yeah.

You know, but I'm also a wife I'm also, an introvert. So, I sometimes I make a very clear divide. I make clear distinction of who I am in different spaces, which it's natural and it's very common, but there are certain things like my own relationship with my husband and even with myself, that I need to be very clear and genuine that I need to integrate every part of myself.

 And that's what came out of that visualization with you. So, that's what I find this so interesting because it really takes out the fear factor. It's very safe to just dive in and just be open to whatever it comes because there is no real risk. Like you're not really talking to somebody else.

And it's important to mention the person may or may not share with you everything they see. it's not like a therapy session in the sense like, they're not, asked to share what they see. I'm sure that some people, even in that workshop that we did for receiving love, there were some people that didn't say anything like, oh yeah, I [00:26:00] saw that.

Mm-hmm. That was it. But it still worked on something. Yeah. 

Gaby: And I do encourage that. Even if you don't share. That's, what I love. I give the space for them to share whatever they want to share, and we can talk about things afterwards. I do encourage that every person that goes there after the session, they write down everything that they remember. It does work somehow, like a dream that you might forget. It doesn't matter if you forget, the work is still done. But it's nice to have the same way you have a dream journal that you go there months after and you read whatever you were dreaming about a few months ago and you were like, oh my God. I see this pattern and I see this, and this is like working itself this way and it's amazing. 

 I wanted to talk about the safety part. Mm-hmm, because we were talking before about the word hypnosis, and I am [00:27:00] trained in hypnosis, but I don't like to use the word because I don't do hypnosis the same way as you can see like hypnosis is very mangled by the entertainment industry. 

Martha: Yes, very,

very misrepresented. 

Gaby:  There is not once that you've seen hypnosis in any movie or show or anything, it's like 

something 

very scary. 

Martha: Yeah. Or making fun of the person that it's being hypnotized.

Gaby: Exactly. 

And that's scary too because you're so vulnerable there. but the other thing about hypnosis is that., I've known people who have done hypnosis, like to quit smoking, or to lose weight, which is that's 

Martha: like a whole different subject to talk about.

Gaby: But in those cases, the person who's doing the session is planting things into people's head. And bunch of clients have told me like, I don't like that. I don't like [00:28:00] to think that when I'm not completely conscious though. People are fully conscious, but they're somehow more vulnerable.

But they don't want someone to come in and plant ideas in their heads. And that's why I just want to pinpoint that, in terms of safety, that I don't lead you to any thought or any idea. Everything that people see in their sessions, it's inside of them already.

I just guide you through the scenarios, but every information you get is yours. And that's something that I love about this because we have the answers to everything that we're going through.

Martha: Mm-hmm. 

Gaby: We just don't have the key sometimes to that door. 

Martha: or we don't know where the key is. Yeah. We lost it.

We left it there. Somewhere. I love that you're sharing that because it goes back to language and how language matters in the sense of [00:29:00] words that we choose to say, how we say it, and how we either, use that in the correct meaning or re-signify them. Yeah. And I think that's why I didn't wanna bring out the word hypnosis because you explained this to me and I was like, I wanna be respectful of that and see what you really think of it.

And that's true. When you started showing that you were doing hypnosis, I could not help myself of, what is she doing? In the sense of what is that? Not in the sense that I wouldn't trust you, but I just couldn't understand it because the reference that there is out there, is such misrepresented in the you know, like, now I'm gonna come out, Talking like a chicken.

Talking like a chicken. Yeah, or, going to buy something specific, which is not true. But it is really how it's represented out there and I never understood how there could be hypnotherapy. Because of precisely that. But the way you explain it makes it really clear. And also, the [00:30:00] way you feel in a session with you makes it really clear that you have agency over what you're seeing and what you're doing and what's coming up. You are literally just a facilitator of the space. 

Gaby: Yeah. Right. And that's what, to me it's the most important thing because this whole journey when people want to heal mm-hmm. One of the first things and one of the key elements there is trust.

Mm-hmm. So, if you are going to someone that you don't trust, you don't trust what they're doing, or you don't trust the person, then the healing won't happen. You will close. 

Martha: and it's gonna be hindered for sure. You may achieve something, but it's never gonna be as transformative or as beneficial when you actually trust the person.

Gaby: Definitely. 

And sometimes we see that there are some techniques and, I think that everything works for somebody. Mm-hmm. But there are some techniques that are too harsh. And [00:31:00] I just don't like them because of that. Because of the trust. Mm-hmm. I don't think, putting people through a shock.

In a way, it's going to help in the long term. 

Martha: It could be traumatizing because you don't really know, sometimes people are not even aware of their full story. 

Gaby: Yeah, exactly. It might work for some people, but I don't think it works for everybody. That's why I think, that when we work with these things, we will work with whatever makes us comfortable.

 Having trust is something that makes me comfortable, people trusting me is something that makes me comfortable. I think that's why I, design it that way and it just happened and that's why I've been differentiating, what I do from this type of therapy, because it's not the same.

 I think the best way to describe it's that it's a deep guided meditation. 

Martha: Mm-hmm. And I guess this is the podcast to validating different things because you also said, now something that I wanna emphasize on and is trust. [00:32:00] Not only in you, but the person who is in the healing journey for them to trust themselves.

 If it feels warm, if it feels safe, if it feels like it sparks your curiosity, go for it. But if for whatever reason you have doubt, fear, anxiety, don't go for it. Just don't. It might be the best thing in the world, but if you are going in not feeling safe, you are not gonna be able to receive the benefits of that or your body. Your emotions are telling you that that specific practice is not for you, and that's totally okay. 

Gaby: It might be not for you at that time. 

Martha: Correct. Yeah. There are things that I would have not tried 10 years ago, but now I'm like, yeah, sure, let's go for it. Because I didn't have the bandwidth, because there were things I needed to solve first. Before getting into the space that I would allow myself to travel into my own subconscious. [00:33:00] Because I can tell you right now, 10 years ago, my subconscious was really scary place for me. I would not ever go there. Like scary neighborhood. Get me out. Don't wanna even look at it. Yeah. 

So, I wanna also acknowledge Gabby, and for everybody listening. This is what creativity looks like. The way you're putting together the things that work for you to create your own practice that you're sharing with your clients, that is a manifestation of your own creativity. And I wanted to highlight that because I know, we've done a lot of focus in this, guided meditation services that you provide, but you have such a myriad of tools that you use with your clients.

 You use tarot cards, you use the pendulum, you use reactivation, you use yoga, breathing, like everything that you have learned. In, the last decade plus you are bringing into the table, and it creates such a unique experience. Like, I know we don't have [00:34:00] much time left, but I think it's enough to touch a little bit on reactivation, if you don't mind.

 because I know you, you do a lot of energy work and I know it's a combination of what you've learned in reactivation and what you learned in Reiki, but for whoever is listening. She is so like on point when she does her sessions. Like I've gone to sessions with you for reactivation and energy work without telling you much. And then you come out, oh, by the way, I have a message for you and it's this, and it's like, Really, I didn't say anything. 

The funniest that I can describe, before giving you a chance to talk a little bit about that work Which is also interesting. She does this also for animals.

 I have old dogs and, when he's feeling cranky and not feeling well, I ask Gabby to spread some of her magic on him. And the last time she did, a couple of months ago, he was not feeling well and she did some work and then she'd tell me like, [00:35:00] Hmm, I don't know if this makes sense to you, but, He thinks that stop worrying about him dying, like stop worrying about it.

And second, he likes for you to love him and cuddle him at his own time. Basically. He wants to be together alone. Because my dog is such an introvert, and it's so funny because that is his personality, and I have not told you any of that, but ever since, I swear to God, I took the advice and I was like, Okay. I am gonna give him his space. I'm not gonna smother him. And it's funny because my relationship with my dog has changed, has evolved. He has found a way to tell me when he wants to be cuddled, and I respect that. And when he doesn't wanna be cuddled, I understand that. And I'll leave him alone, 

but it is what it's, but yeah., tell us a little bit about your energy work. 

Gaby: I do reactivation, reiki all in one thing. And like many other things, I blend in some epigenetics and for those of you who don't [00:36:00] know about that, it's just about how our genes are turned on and off because of, the environment being ourselves, like how our emotions might impact on our genetic, 

Martha: Makeup. 

Gaby: Thank you. 

So, I blended all of that and that session's called Restore. I do advise for people, if you want, to have a session with me. I would say the relearn, which is, the deep meditation It's very fun and you will see a lot of things, but I will advise to first do the restore one because, the restore session will open you up to go into that journey to the inside of your mind.

 So, for Restore the idea is to restore as the name itself explains it. the harmonious energy that we should have in our bodies. Mm-hmm. Nature has some kind of wavelength. Mm-hmm. And it's harmonious. [00:37:00] Everything in nature works perfectly. It might not seem perfect for us because some things you know, are sometimes a little because.

Martha: we think we're better, we're completely disconnected, 

Gaby: but in fact, nature works perfectly and it's because it's always in that. Wavelength of it. 

Martha: Equilibrium,

Gaby: yeah. Yeah. We should be there. But what happens with us, we have emotions and our emotions mess everything up sometimes for the better, but sometimes, it's too much. And our emotions tend to. Make our energy a little more dissonant in a way.

Mm-hmm. we think of energy like that. So, the session it, is just to restore that wavelength in our bodies and it's very specific into anatomy. I go everywhere. I go into genes, not all genes, but the genes associated with a lot of cortisol, expression and things like that.

So, we [00:38:00] are in a more balanced state so our healing can start. Mm-hmm. Because our healing will always come from inside of us. Yeah. But if we are in that state of, every energy going its own way, it's very hard for our bodies and for our minds to start healing.

 And the reason why, I'm able to give these messages is because, I do things for example, I do every single, gland in your body, and I will check what's working, what's not working, every muscle, every emotion, genes and things like that. Then when I get a picture of what's working and what's not working, then I get some idea of what's going on.

Mm-hmm. And of course, that also comes from the fact that doing this work opens myself up a lot to intuition. Yeah. And I just, and to channel. Mm-hmm. When I do the work, I just open myself to it and whatever comes, I just [00:39:00] trust it because, it's all about trust. And at first, I didn't trust the messages that much and I was like, I might not say that. That's super odd and then when I started saying things, people's minds were exploding. It would make sense to them. And they're like, yeah, that makes so much sense. 

 Then I just trusted the messages and I just give the messages. Mm-hmm. I love it because it's some sort of like puzzle for me. Mm-hmm. When I do this work, because you get all these different parts because we have so many parts. 

Martha: mm-hmm. We're complex beings.

Yeah. We have layers. Freaking onions Yeah. 

Gaby: So many layers. 

And it's just every single session is different even for the same person. Every single session is different and with every session you might get different things and you might experience different things, and it's a way to connect to your own self.

Mm-hmm. To start, because one of the other things, we were talking about like safety and we were talking about, feeling well when you're doing something like [00:40:00] trusting your feelings about mm-hmm. Something you're gonna do. And I think we have, to start little, you have to start small and then try. Different things,

Martha: to build up your own confidence too. 

Gaby: More complexity, yeah. Mm-hmm. One of the first thing that I will encourage people to do is start having a relationship with their bodies. Just start noticing when things happen. Why is it happening now? Why am I feeling this, without judgment mostly.

Mm-hmm. In that relationship, we'll build up to something much, much better. And these sessions, will help with that connection. 

Martha:  Something I do wanna share with those listening is that this is a very safe space. Even if you're working with trauma.

 Why? Because the work that Gabby does, is not triggering in a reactive way. It will give you insights, but because it's not invasive, it's also can be done remote. Like, we don't live in the same place, all her sessions [00:41:00] with me. She does it remote.

Those who. Have the chance and the privilege to get, an in-person session. It's also not a lot of touch. You're very respectful. I know reactivation, your kind of like hold hands, and feet and maybe little touch, on the different parts of the body, but it's never in an invasive way. I do think as a trauma survivor, as somebody that has worked a lot on P T S D, sexual trauma and all these different things, her work. Feels very safe. I have at no point ever felt invaded or disrespected or unsafe and all the insights that you've given me, it's genuine and it also I don't know how other ways to explain it, but it comes from a place of love. At no point anything that you do or say feels threatening.

So that's why I would personally, invite whoever is listening to look into Gabby's work because it is definitely a [00:42:00] safe space, that can open the window, for you to explore something else, to build that bandwidth, that resilience that you're talking about in a very gentle way.

 At no point you are forced to do anything, I mean, you can see that maybe I'm a little partial to it because I love her so much, but her work is really good, my parents go to you. I have friends that I sent to you, and even my father who's very skeptical about these things and who rarely accepts, getting a session with you.

Every time he comes out, it was like, Hmm, yeah. Hmm. That pain I had on my shoulder doesn't come anymore. Or, yeah, no, I felt this, and then I thought this, and I'm like, See dad, like it's all good stuff. 

And he was like, yeah, okay. 

But even like very 

skeptical people, will, 

will benefit from it.

. So, yeah, I would like to invite everybody to be curious about the work that Gabby does and the school of you, because it is really a very gentle way to open the window or the door, to know [00:43:00] yourself better.

 With that said, Gabby, how can people reach out to you? 

Gaby: Okay. I was just gonna say that you say that I'm your supporter.

Martha: girl, I gotta give back.

Gaby: That was so sweet with, yeah. So, you can, reach out to me right now on Instagram. I'm building my website. Because I did some rebranding. So, On Instagram is School of You underscore. 

Martha: I'll share all of this in the notes from the episode. 

Gaby: There I have the two sessions I do are restore, which is the energy healing one and relearn, which is the deep guided meditation. And there's a little more explanation, on Instagram the pinned reels are about that, you can learn. And any question you have, you can message me if you're thinking about it, if you have questions, I know it's work that it's somehow, it's hard to explain and it's hard to [00:44:00] grasp unless you do it. But the more questions that I can try, yeah, the better. 

 I love TikTok. It's just school of you, no underscore, but TikTok doesn't have my services. It's just content. 

Martha: Okay. Okay.

Gaby: But if you wanna go there, it's slightly different content on TikTok, same idea, but it's less structured. 

Martha: Got it.

Gaby: So, it's like whatever's on my mind. And then on Instagram, it's my contact, my email, my phone, everything's there. So, whatever you need, I'm there. Okay. Like me 

Martha: Perfect.

Gaby: What I do better, what I like better about my job is talking to people. So don't be shy. 

Martha: Yeah.

She's not an introvert. I am.

 Well thank you so much, for being part of this, project that I'm creating with this podcast, Gabby. I would not have it other way. Also stay tuned on her Instagram because she occasionally [00:45:00] offers a variety of workshops. they're all always really cool and fun.

 Thank you again for coming.

This was a really cool conversation and, I can wait to talk to you again. Thank you for being here. 

Gaby: Thank you for having me. And finally, our long audio is hard, just like we finally turn it into a podcast.